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[DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 08:56:04 am »
Apro questo post per avere info.

Ho personalmente giochicchiato ieri sera e devo dire proprio che: "è fantastico!"

Ahahah ora si ke è divertente giocare!!!!
Un burning focus terribile e occorre trovare la rotation giusta.
Chiunque abbia trovato info abbastanza "normali" da applicare al normal game, senza statistiche inutili e complesse, lo prego di riferirle...


[   aggiunto 15/10/2010  ]




Marksman MM Patch 4.0.1 Rotation

All hunter rotations are priority-based in patch 4.0.1. You never want to be sitting at 100 focus — when you are that means that any focus you gain is lost, rather than converted into better dps.

    * Start fight with Hunter’s Mark, and by applying Serpent Sting
    * Always hit Chimera Shot when it’s available — you always want to have enough focus saved up to hit Chimera as soon as it’s available.
    * Hit your free Aimed Shot proc (“Fire!”) whenever it’s available.
    * Use Arcane Shot to bleed off excess focus.
    * Use Steady Shot to regen focus. Note that you want to fire Steady Shots in pairs to maintain the Improved Steady Shot buff as much as possible.

The hardest part of the MM 4.0.1 rotation is managing the improved steady shot buff.  The 15% haste this provides is a significant deal, but it’s tricky to optimize. In general you want to try to hit steady shots in pairs — so it’s much better to fire 2 steadies, arcane, 2 steadies than it is to fire 4 steadies in a row.

This means that sometimes you’ll actually hold off on your free aimed shot proc if it hits after just one steady shot — it’s better to wait a bit on the aimed shot than to fire it at once and then have to fire two more steady shots to get your haste buff back up (waiting 1.5 sec or so on aimed vs. letting the buff drop for 3 or more seconds).
Marksman Patch 4.0.1 Glyphs

MM Prime Glyphs
The prime glyphs are our heavy-hitters. These are the ones that are actually going to impact our dps. Currently it’s looking like the following are going to be the best choices; however, it’ll be interesting to do some testing on the Chimera Shot glyph once we see what the final Chimera Shot coefficients are.

    * Glyph of Arcane Shot
    * Glyph of Steady Shot
    * Glyph of Kill Shot

MM Major Glyphs
Most of the major glyphs are not going to have a direct impact on your dps. They are oriented around pvp, quality of life, or leveling (Glyph of Misdirection is phenomenal for soloing). Personally I’m a huge proponent of using Disengage to minimize time wasted on movement, thus I think that the Disengage glyph is potentially a dps-increasing glyph. Everything else is really up to you.

    * Glyph of Disengage
    * …whatever else you’d like

MM Minor Glyphs
Similar to major glyphs, the minor glyphs aren’t going to increase our dps. However there are few enough choices that I do think the following three are the best choices.

    * Glyph of Mend Pet
    * Glyph of Feign Death
    * Glyph of Revive Pet

« Ultima modifica: Ottobre 15, 2010, 08:47:50 am da Kimmolauz »

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #1 il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 08:58:28 am »
Io speravo che le avresti messe tu :D


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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #2 il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 09:39:27 am »
Attualmente l'unica rotazione realzzabile è questa e va totalmente usata se e quando si hanno determinate circostanze.
Della serie: Hai gli addon installati per monitorizzare i debuff sul target e i tuoi buff? OK usa una rotations.
Non li hai? Ok puoi premere tasti a caso.
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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #3 il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 09:53:15 am »
Bravo Kim, almeno per l'impegno... ;)
Purtroppo x questa settimana sono impossibilitato ad editare alcunchè, in quanto praticamente non potrò giocare x impegni di RL.

Ho però letto parecchio nelle ultime settimane e posterò qualcosa non appena mi sarò reso conto di persona dei vari cambiamenti.




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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #4 il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 12:26:53 pm »

Si scusate ma da lavoro non posso cazzeggiare, se non solo per guardare e/o rispondere alle boiate che scrivete  ihihihih


arrivo a casa alle 21:10 dopo la palestra, loggo wow e raid...

quando verifico i siti?! non ne ho il tempo  ='(

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #5 il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 12:37:11 pm »
Ho dimenticato la rotations MM

If HM is not on target or running out in less than a set time and there´s no MfD on target and MfD is not talented and focus/cooldowns/target heath don´t allow for KS or CS
--> cast HM
If KS is off CD and target health is at or below 20%
--> cast KS
If CS is off CD and got enough focus
--> cast CS
If MMM buff is up and focus won't overcap
--> cast AimS
If SpS is not on target and got enough focus
--> cast SpS
If SS won´t overcap focus and Imp. SS buff need refresh
--> cast SS
If enough focus to cast AS now and still enough to cast CS whenever it comes off CD
--> cast AS
None of the above
--> cast SS

Direttamente da Elitist.

Per maggiori info:

http://elitistjerks.com/f74/t106028-mm_hunter_4_0_1_a/
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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #6 il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 02:14:40 pm »
bene...bisogna ricominciare a studiare

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #7 il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 02:17:18 pm »
bene...bisogna ricominciare a studiare
Paolo, dato che ho molta fiduca in te :gatto: aspetto il tuo resoconto per sistemarmi l'hunterina :D (tradotto ti copio spudoratamente :grin:)

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #8 il: Ottobre 14, 2010, 04:15:20 pm »
Provate colleghi Hunter a visitare questo sito che magari già conoscete: www.warcrafthuntersunion.com
trovate per ogni spec il tree dei talent impostato (versioni già testate), con i glifi da usare e le rotazioni per ogni spec.
Io per il momento uso quelle impostazioni per BM e MM poi al max cambio qualcosina  :smoke:

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #9 il: Ottobre 15, 2010, 08:41:48 am »

si avevo letto anche io su elitjerks la rotation...

ma priorità è sempre quella o cmq si capisce da subito...

ma di fatto capire la rotation e fare un ottima giocata con le abilità è diverso..

Perchè se non riesci a buttare dentro quello ke è elencato tanto vale....
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Ho capito come funziona l'hunter però il mio problema è ke avrò bisogno di power aura mi sa, in quanto ora anche all'hunter si attivano dei buff e abilità durante i quali devi fare determinate azioni...


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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #10 il: Ottobre 15, 2010, 08:45:11 am »


Marksman MM Patch 4.0.1 Rotation

All hunter rotations are priority-based in patch 4.0.1. You never want to be sitting at 100 focus — when you are that means that any focus you gain is lost, rather than converted into better dps.

    * Start fight with Hunter’s Mark, and by applying Serpent Sting
    * Always hit Chimera Shot when it’s available — you always want to have enough focus saved up to hit Chimera as soon as it’s available.
    * Hit your free Aimed Shot proc (“Fire!”) whenever it’s available.
    * Use Arcane Shot to bleed off excess focus.
    * Use Steady Shot to regen focus. Note that you want to fire Steady Shots in pairs to maintain the Improved Steady Shot buff as much as possible.

The hardest part of the MM 4.0.1 rotation is managing the improved steady shot buff.  The 15% haste this provides is a significant deal, but it’s tricky to optimize. In general you want to try to hit steady shots in pairs — so it’s much better to fire 2 steadies, arcane, 2 steadies than it is to fire 4 steadies in a row.

This means that sometimes you’ll actually hold off on your free aimed shot proc if it hits after just one steady shot — it’s better to wait a bit on the aimed shot than to fire it at once and then have to fire two more steady shots to get your haste buff back up (waiting 1.5 sec or so on aimed vs. letting the buff drop for 3 or more seconds).
Marksman Patch 4.0.1 Glyphs

MM Prime Glyphs
The prime glyphs are our heavy-hitters. These are the ones that are actually going to impact our dps. Currently it’s looking like the following are going to be the best choices; however, it’ll be interesting to do some testing on the Chimera Shot glyph once we see what the final Chimera Shot coefficients are.

    * Glyph of Arcane Shot
    * Glyph of Steady Shot
    * Glyph of Kill Shot

MM Major Glyphs
Most of the major glyphs are not going to have a direct impact on your dps. They are oriented around pvp, quality of life, or leveling (Glyph of Misdirection is phenomenal for soloing). Personally I’m a huge proponent of using Disengage to minimize time wasted on movement, thus I think that the Disengage glyph is potentially a dps-increasing glyph. Everything else is really up to you.

    * Glyph of Disengage
    * …whatever else you’d like

MM Minor Glyphs
Similar to major glyphs, the minor glyphs aren’t going to increase our dps. However there are few enough choices that I do think the following three are the best choices.

    * Glyph of Mend Pet
    * Glyph of Feign Death
    * Glyph of Revive Pet
« Ultima modifica: Ottobre 15, 2010, 08:48:14 am da Kimmolauz »

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #11 il: Ottobre 15, 2010, 08:48:46 am »


ps ho talentato leggermente differentemente..sono in fase di test....

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #12 il: Ottobre 15, 2010, 10:59:32 pm »
ti odio Kimmo :'(
hai postato inglese :gatto:

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #13 il: Ottobre 17, 2010, 09:41:56 pm »
ah scusa...c'era questo e sinceramente l'avevo letto come se fosse italiano, non ci avevo fatto caso    :ema:

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Re: [DPS HUNTER] 80-85
« Risposta #14 il: Ottobre 17, 2010, 11:05:15 pm »
poco male, ti perdono se lo traduci :D